Separate rooms

Last night Jo and I went to the house party again (our first and second visits). As we anticipated Jack and Danielle were there. We talked to them and quite a few other people but before long Jack asked us if we wanted “to take the upstairs tour”. Of course he meant that as in invitation to have sex with Danielle and him.

We were hoping that would work out so we all went upstairs to the bedrooms. Danielle said that one of things they didn’t ask when we met them for drinks was what we were “into”. She prefers to be in separate rooms. Jo and I had never done that but I was okay with it and Jo said it was fine with her too so Jack and Jo went into one bedroom and Danielle and I went into another.

We got undressed and laid down on the bed together. She explained that she just felt better not seeing and hearing Jack when he was having sex with another woman. I told her that I enjoyed watching Jo with another man but I can understand how it might be better for some people to be in separate rooms.

She started asking questions about what we thought about the meeting we had on Thursday evening and that lead to a bunch of questions about my mentally ill ex-wife, and she told stories about people she knew with mental health issues. She told me how incredibly beautiful Jo is and how she should emphasize her height instead of sometimes trying to minimize it. She talked about how they “go hunting” for compatible couples at a party. It was a great conversation. We ended up just talking for probably 30 minutes or more while people came and went in the bedroom. Some talked for a bit with us or commented on how nice we looked together.

Finally  she said, “Why don’t we go see what they are doing?” So we got up and went to the doorway of the other bedroom to watch Jack and Jo having sex for a while. Then we went back to “our” bedroom and she told me, “Make your move.” I laughed and told her she could “make her move too”. So we started the foreplay much more earnestly than just the simple stroking of breasts, chests, arms and legs.

Just as we were staring to have intercourse Jack came in to use the bathroom accessible through our bedroom and commented, “You guys still aren’t done?” We laughed and continued to do our thing.

After we were done we put our clothes back on and went downstairs to mingle some more. Jo was dancing with some other women and occasionally a guy or three. I checked in with her and she said she had a good time with Jack and “would do that again”.

We chatted with a bunch of different people. These included:

Plus several other people that were becoming familiar faces from our visits.

It was interesting talking to Kathy. This was their second party ever. The first was at the hotel where we met them the first time. She was telling some other people that the previous party was the first time she had sex with anyone other than her husband in 22 years and that it was with me. Jack overheard and said, “It must have been good because you are here!” She asked me a bunch of questions and made observations about how difficult it is to find people that you are both attracted to and they are attracted to you. I agreed and said that Jo and I will sometimes go to a half dozen or more parties without playing with anyone other than each other. “Oh good!”, she said, “I don’t feel so bad about being picky then.” I shared what I could which I thought would help her come up to speed on how things work and how to be successful and not get into uncomfortable situations.

Jo got many more offers to have sex but she turned them down. About 10:30 she asked if I was ready to go home, and did I want to play again with her here or when we get home. And I said, “Why not both?” “Oh! That could work too.”, she replied. So we went back upstairs to one of the bedrooms. Calvin and Jerri were there with another couple and Frank and Kathy were there by themselves, except for the dozen or so other people in the room. Jo and I had sex with each other and watched other people as we did. Then we drove the 90 minutes home, went to bed, had sex again. When we woke up late this morning we again had sex.

We were pleased with the party. We had a really nice time.

Jo gets another hall pass

I was out of town this weekend and Jo was home with her kids. The club was having a three day party for Memorial Day weekend and she decided to get away from the kids and house to have a little fun on Sunday night. She went to the club by herself again (the first time was documented here).

This time there weren’t any single men she was interested in. She hung out with Tom & Mary and Andy & Ronda, and talked to Rocky for quite a while. She also danced with a few other guys.

Tom was quite interested in her and did a lot of rubbing against her on the dance floor. But she wasn’t at all certain Mary would be okay with her playing with Tom. She learned a lot about Ronda we didn’t know before. From their profile on the club website it would appear they were interested in finding others to play with both at the club and outside the club. And as they live near to us, and are very attractive, we thought it would be a good match for us. But it turns out that Ronda had a bad previous relationship, has some some serious trust issues, and doesn’t want anyone other than Tom being intimate with her. And isn’t really comfortable with Tom being with another woman either.

One of the interesting things that came out of the discussion was that Ronda expressed surprise that Jo would go to the club by herself. “You are so brave!” she told Jo. “Did you tell Bob you were going?”, she asked. Jo told her she had and that she had come to the club before and had an experience she didn’t think she could ever top. And then when I came home we “had sex about 45 times.” That was a bit of an exaggeration but it certainly captured the sentiment of what happened when I came home. Ronda just couldn’t understand that even though Tom agreed with the likelihood of that happening. I wish I could have been there to explain it.

There was one guy that really, really wanted to play with Jo, but she was not interested in, and she had to be a little insistent, while still being polite, to extract herself from his attention. She left and went home early without ever going into the play area. I was a bit disappointed but understood the feeling she expressed of being a third wheel with all the couples and few single men none of which were interesting to her.

Is that weird?

Jo and I went to our usual club last night. It had been a long time due to various life events that got in the way of our recreational activities as well as checking out the other club.

We chatted with Tim for while at the snack table. We are very unlikely to play with him and his wife Candy because some of his sexual preferences are outside of our comfort zone. He is usually very interesting to talk to but this time he appeared to be stoned or something.

We then hung out at the bar with Sean for a while before dinner. We have had a moderate interest in him and his wife Martha for quite some time but never have been able to follow up on it. Martha was late getting there and he was still waiting for her to arrive when we went to the buffet table for dinner. So we ended up looking for someone else interesting to sit with. There wasn’t much of real interest but we finally selected a table with a couple and a single woman. We didn’t recognize any of them and thought maybe they were brand new.

It turns out it was the very first time for the woman, Cynthia,  who was part of the couple. Her male friend, Aaron, had been a member for several years but did a lot of travel, world-wide, and sometimes doesn’t attend for months at a time. The single woman,  Uriah, usually attends with her boyfriend but he had been encouraging her to come without him and this was her first time doing so.

The three of them were happily involved in conversation when we arrived but they quickly included us. They wanted to know if Uriah’s boyfriend should have told her “I love you” after four years together. She wasn’t sure if it was a reasonable expectation. They knew they would never get married and they weren’t living together. But the consensus was that he “needed to be talked to.” Jo volunteered. I think she would do it too. He better watch out the next time he shows up when we are around.

Uriah told us that she comes to the club to make her boyfriend happy. She enjoys herself, but it is mostly because her boyfriend likes to see her be with someone else. He doesn’t have an interest in other women, just watching her with other men, “Is that weird?”, she asked.

I told her there were evolutionary reasons for him to enjoy that. I enjoyed it too. And that I didn’t think it was all that weird once you understood. She didn’t understand and wanted me to explain.

I told her about something I had read about there being multiple solution to evolutionary problems. There is a “problem” when the spouse of a male has sex with someone other than that male because they are at risk of providing support for someone that does not pass on their genes. Hence anger, driving off the other male, and punishing the female reduce this risk and are a solution to this problem. But there is a another solution that also works. And that is for the male to displace the semen of the other male with that of his own. There is physiological evidence of this solution in the shape of the male penis. It is scoop like and when moved back and forth in the vagina moves material from the inside to the outside of the vagina. There is further evidence of this solution being used in that men who suspect his female partner has been having sex with someone else has greater ejaculate volume than a man that does not suspect that. And greater still if he has seen her with another man.

She protested, “But neither of us want to have any more children. So how can that be what he is thinking?” “It’s not a rational thought process”, I countered.

It is something very deep down in the brain that is beyond anything you are consciously aware of. It’s what the man feels. He feels excited and wants to have sex with the woman he has seen have sex with another male. He then ejaculates more and perhaps gets more pleasure from the experience. He doesn’t know why he feels that way but it happens. It has been solving an evolutionary problem since perhaps before our ancestors were sentient.

Aaron chipped in telling Cynthia, “I would love to see you have sex with another man!”

What I would like to know is if all men have both “solutions” built in and can “turn on and off” which one solution is implemented in a given situation. Or do they have just one solution? Can someone who explodes in a jealous rage when their spouse has sex with another be “reprogramed” to take advantage of that for the mutual pleasure of everyone involved?

It was Trivia night at the club and Aaron and Cynthia left to go to the play area soon after the Trivia answer sheets were handed out. Uriah, Jo, and I played and our team tied for second place. Uriah and I continued talking through the trivia game and it was pretty obvious she was interested in me. But without someone for Jo I didn’t encourage it much. When the trivia game was over Jo and I got up and Uriah did as well saying something like, “Well, at least I came by myself, talked with people and had dinner.” I interpreted this as her wanting to know if we, or I, were going to invite her to the play area. I told her that I enjoyed talking to her and hoped to see her there again sometime.

Jo and I went off to the play area together. We saw Aaron and Cynthia having sex together and a few others. But we just played with each other and then went home somewhat early.

Hotel party

Jo and I went to parties at our usual club last month on the 23rd and the 26th. The parties were not particularly interesting. We did volunteer work on the 26th and came away thinking something along the lines of, “We spent nine hours here and we didn’t do anything more interesting than watch a few other people have sex with their own partners. Sure, we talked to some people but it was a big investment without much in return.”

Jo and I decided to check out a different club. We decided to try a party held at a hotel. I knew some of the people putting on the parties and had known of the club for several years but had never been there before. They take over a couple floors of a hotel and a large conference room. Jo did all the contact and information gathering to get us into the party and then we thought about it for a while to decide whether we wanted to go or not. It is further away than our usual club and was going to be different. An almost completely different set of people, a much different dynamic because of it being in a hotel. And who knows what else will be different?

A few days ago Calvin and Jerri sent us a text message saying they would be going. We still weren’t decided and we told them we were thinking about it. We then sent them a message Friday night telling them we had decided to go.

We decided to eat dinner at home rather than at the party so we could save some money and spend more time with Jo’s kids. This probably made socializing a bit more difficult. Everyone was at tables when we arrived and the people that looked interesting to us were at tables without any room to join them.

Rebecca was at the bar getting a drink after we checked in and started exploring. She pointed us to the table where Calvin and Jerri were but we decided we didn’t want to head straight for them. We explored the floor with the designated play area rooms and got invited to go to with one couple to their room to get a drink. We weren’t sure if this was an invite to play, just being polite as they got themselves a drink, or offering us a drink. It was a tiny bit awkward and we left after a bit. I think it was just being polite. They were nice to talk to but they weren’t a great match for us physically.

We, well mostly Jo, happily chatted with a number of people and danced when the live band started playing. Calvin and Jo seemed to be magically attracted to each other and kept spending time together dancing, kissing, and making out in the conference room. I was, as usual, kind of shy and didn’t pursue anyone. At the urging of Jo I did sit down with Rebecca when she was all alone and talked to her for a while. Another woman came back to the table and I chatted with her some too.  Eventually both their husbands came back to the table and I felt a little awkward and I left.

At one point Jo and Calvin were around the corner in a hallway making out and I was watching the dance floor.  Jerri was dancing with another woman, Kathy, and she motioned for me to join them. She chastised me a little bit for just standing around and not participating. She asked were Jo was and I told her he was with her husband around the corner. She smiled and we danced. After a while Jo and Calvin joined us on the dance floor and Kathy’s husband did as well. Jerri rubbed against me and there was a lot of touching. She eventually migrated to Kathy’s husband and I danced and talked with Kathy some. She asked how long we had been in the lifestyle and I told her “a pretty long time”. “How about you?” I asked. “About two minutes.” Oh! Really new.

Eventually Jo and I kind of ended up wandering around alone as more and more people left the conference room and headed for the play rooms. Jo suggested we go home. She was really interested in playing with Calvin but we never got a really strong feeling of interest for me from anyone. It would be easy to categorize the attention from Jerri as being polite.

We decided to say good-bye to the people still there that we had spent time with and then go. When I said good-bye to Jerri she looked disappointed and stood very close to me and asked, “Could I convince you to stay?” I told her, “You probably could!” She kissed me and then she asked Jo the same question and we agreed to stay. Kathy, her husband, Calvin, Jerri, Jo and I then went off to the play rooms together. It was crowed. There were lots of people in the halls but we did find a room with two beds with only one bed occupied with another couple having sex. Jo and Jerri almost immediately dropped their clothes to the floor (I helped Jerri with a zipper and an eye hook) and Calvin and I started undressing too. Kathy and her husband were hesitant. But after everyone else was naked they slowly undressed to their underwear. It was interesting to see their expressions. They had never done or seen anything like this. Jerri joined Calvin in giving attention to Jo and I joined Kathy and her husband on the bed. She had ditched her bra and her husband was kissing her on the breasts and I cautiously joined in. I told her to be sure and say “No” at any point. She said, “I’m game for anything!” I proceeded cautiously anyway and after a short while her husband drifted off to give Jerri some attention as she continued to play with Jo.

Kathy and I engaged in a lot of foreplay and had sex. After the other bed emptied Calvin and Jo utilized it to have sex. Jerri sat on a chair and Kathy’s husband performed oral sex on her for quite a while. Other people drifted in and out and various women touched me as their partners touched Kathy as we were having sex. We were finished about the same time Jo and Calvin did. Jerri and I both joined them on their bed. Calvin and I on the outside and Jo and Jerri on the inside with me next to Jerri and Calvin next to Jo. We, cuddled, talked, and observed the other people.

One of the new men in the room started having sex with Kathy and her husband started having sex with his partner. The newbies were getting quite the introduction to the lifestyle!

We probably talked and cuddled for 45 minutes or so and finally decided it was so late that we had to leave. It was nearly 2:00 AM and we had a 40 minute drive home.

Calvin and Jerri got up to leave and I rolled over to kiss Jo and we had sex again with each other.

Jo was really tired and slept quite a bit on the way home but she was ready for more sex when we got into bed. And this morning, before her daughter announced her Mother’s Day breakfast was ready, we had sex again.

It was a nice experience. It really depends so much on the people attending but we will probably go back to that club again.

Quick! We need to talk to them!

Last night we went to the club again. I had some car trouble and we were later than usual. It was almost time for dinner to be served by the time we checked in at the front desk. We did the check in thing and were headed to the lockers to put our towels and stuff away in preparation for dinner when we saw a couple at the bar. Both were tall, in good shape, about our age, and very nice looking.

As we walked to the locker area Jo whispered to me, “Quick! We need to talk to them!” I agreed. We quickly put our stuff away and hurried back to the bar. They were gone. Jo got a drink for herself and then we went looking for them. They were at the buffet table filling their plates. We hurried to get in line behind them. I exchanged smiles with the woman as we went through the line. Jo and I whispered back and forth and decided to try and get at the same table with them. Luckily they chose a table that was empty and still had room for us. We asked if we could join them and when they gave permission I sat down next to the woman. We introduced ourselves and started talking. They were Andy and Ronda.

It turns out they live less than 10 miles from us and were great fun to talk to. They are smart, articulate, and happy people. They were fairly new to the club. After the party we realized they were a couple we had sent a message to via the club website back in November. We said we were interested in them and would like to have dinner with them sometime. They got back to us about two weeks later and said they were going to the club again in a couple days but they were going with another couple. But to say hi if we saw them. If we recall correctly we did see them briefly on the dance floor and said hi but nothing more.

From talking to them it wasn’t clear if they had actually had any sexual contact with anyone outside their relationship. They enjoyed being in the nude and having sex in the presence of others but they didn’t talk about anything beyond that. At one point Jo and Andy were away from the table for a while and I asked Ronda how long they had been in the lifestyle. She said they were just exploring at this point. I interpreted this to mean they hadn’t really had sexual contact with others yet. No matter they were great fun to talk to. Ronda’s adult daughter and son have very similar hobbies and strong political beliefs similar to mine and I shared links to some of my websites that might be of interest to them.

And almost as interesting was that Brenda came over and sat on the same chair with Jo, twice, and said hi. Jo and I independently came to the conclusion that since we hadn’t given her the usual attention we do that she came to looking for it. Funny!

This was sexual trivia night at the club and Jo and I seldom do very well at this. Andy and Ronda had never been on a Wednesday before and didn’t seem all that interested in the trivia game either. We almost decided not to play but finally decided that we could at least play for a while. The first round was true or false we ended up guessing on about five out of the seven questions. It turned out we only missed two and that was encouraging enough that we continued to play. We again got five of the seven questions right on the second round which was multiple choice. The last round was identification of people from their nude pictures. This was always the round Jo and I did terrible on. Ronda was amazing at this. She would announce the name of the person within a couple seconds after it was displayed. Jo and I had no clue on any but one or two even after all the verbal clues were given. With Ronda’s amazing skill on the last round we won the trivia contest. We each won a small vibrating dildo for our efforts.

After the trivia contest we migrated to the bar area talked and talked until it was getting pretty late. Jo stood next to Andy and I stood next to Ronda. Ronda ended up showing us her breasts. She told us she had them enlarged so people would look at them instead of her other body parts. Jo and I didn’t see anything wrong with any of her other body parts but we were happy to explore her breasts when offered.

It was getting pretty late and Jo would have been willing to go directly home because we both had to get up an go to work in the morning. But I wanted to at least spend a little bit of time in the play area. So we told them we were going to the play area and made it clear they were welcome to go with us. We all went to the locker room and changed. We went into the play area together and when Jo and I found “the perch” available we took it and I told Andy and Ronda they were welcome to join us if they wanted. They continued on and we didn’t see them for probably ten or fifteen minutes when they came back and took a play space nearby.

As Jo and I had sex Andy and Ronda got “warmed up” and had sex. We watched and smiled at each other as we continued our lovemaking. After Jo and I finished then cuddled for a while we got up and said good-bye to Andy and Ronda as they continued to have sex with each other.

Although we didn’t get to play with them we were pleased with how things went. They live close by and a good match for us in the physical as well as personality departments. We hope to hear have contact with them again soon.

Not tonight, I have a headache

Last night we went to our usual club. We sent a message to Alex and Alice telling them we would be there and would like to see them again. We had met them at the Meet and Greet at the end of March.

We found them shortly after arriving and had dinner with them. Alice told us she was getting a migraine but she continued to talk and we all hit it off well. We talked about a variety of things and we seemed to each find our new friends outside interests and jobs fascinating. They had been members of the club for several years but hadn’t attended in a couple years. I didn’t recognized them but that wasn’t too surprising because I almost always used to attend on Wednesday and they always attended the Saturday parties.

After dinner we moved to the hot tub. I sat next to Alice and Jo sat next to Alex. Alex and Jo almost immediately began touching each other and before there were some kisses. Alice and I were still talking with only some incidental touching of legs and feet. She was clearly aware of what was going on between Alex and Jo but there didn’t seem to be any interest on her part for similar things to be going on between us. There was some quiet talking between Alex and Jo and things cooled down a little bit. Alice continued to be friendly but without expressing opening to being touched. Finally she said that Alex didn’t need to wait for her and Jo explained either we (Jo and I) both play or neither play.

Alice said she really wasn’t feeling well. Her head hurt badly and it would be impossible for her to get excited. I told her it was fine. I understood.

Barb and I stayed in the hot tub for a few minutes longer talking to them and engaging in a little touching with them, then kissed them good-bye and went to the play area to have sex with each other.

Four Las Vegas parties in three days

Jo and I just got back from Las Vegas. We don’t really gamble but there are other things to do there that we thought might be fun. Like check out the  sex clubs.

I had heard of Vegas Red Rooster for years but reviews were so poor compared to our usual club that I had never been all that interested. When we met Calvin and Jerri last weekend they had mentioned Couples Oasis was another party house in Vegas. We had not heard of that one before. We corresponded some with Calvin and Jerri before going to Vegas and they gave us more information about the place and said they were going to the pool party on Sunday. So Jo and I decided to check it out.

We attended the Couples Oasis on Friday night. It was a pretty nice place. It was clean and reasonably well decorated. Not “rustic” at all. It was quite a bit smaller than our usual club but that wasn’t surprising. Our club is considered quite large.

We got the tour/orientation and then sat down in the bar/dance area for a while. There wasn’t anyone of any real interest to us. We wandered over to the pool table where there was a couple that was a little more interesting and we played pool for a bit. We chatted with them a little bit but there wasn’t any really ‘magic’ there so we didn’t pursue anything with them. Then we went back to the bar area for a while, got bored, and went to sit in the hot tub.  It’s more of a very small swimming pool. There are only the steps to sit on so you can’t easily sit around and talk for long periods of time but it was nice. We were the only people there but we thought maybe taking off our clothes would get other people moving in the right direction. Even if we didn’t want to have sex with any of the people we thought it would be nice to be in the same room with others as they were having sex.

No such luck. After 15 or 20 minutes we got out, dried off, put our clothes on, and went looking at the various play areas to see if there was any action someplace. Nope. People were just sitting around in the bar area drinking and doing a little bit of talking. A few minutes after 11:00 PM we left without even seeing anyone else with their clothes off.

On Saturday night we went to Vegas Red Rooster. We expected lots of single guys hovering around Jo but there wasn’t really an issue. What was an issue was the smoke filled environment. The place was heavy with smoke residue and after we left our clothes and hair smelled of smoke.

Aside from the smoke there was only one couple that sort of looked interesting. Jo talked to them for while and we probably would have been okay with them but the environment wasn’t really sexy for us.

There was one older woman with very close cut hair that came up to Jo and started telling her about her new dentures. She as losing weight because the dentures didn’t fit right and she couldn’t eat much.

There were  quite a few people there but not really enough play areas for everyone had anyone actually tried to use them. We were told that you could only stay in a play area for 20 minutes so “do your foreplay before you go in”. However, if you tipped the play area security guys $20 they would let you stay longer. Really classy.

After only an hour and a half or so we were ready to leave. We did a quick tour of the play area and found they were all empty.

It was still fairly early so we went back to Couples Oasis. We thought maybe a Saturday night would be more interesting. It was and we started talking to a couple in the bar area that seemed promising. We were having a nice chat and another couple came over to join in the conversation. They were interesting to talk to but, physically, were not playmate material. The second couple sort of crowded out the first couple so we again decided to leave. Again we made a tour of the play areas to see if there was anything of interest going on. Again we couldn’t find anyone having sex.

Sunday we went on a tour through the Hoover dam power plant. In the early afternoon Calvin and Jerri texted us and said they were at the Couples Oasis pool party. We texted back and said we would be a little late but we would be there.

We arrived at the pool party and found Calvin and Jerri. Jerri and many of the other women were topless. We sat down next to them and talked for a long time. Things progressed some with Calvin sitting next to Jo and Jerri and I sitting together. There was a lot of touching as we talked. The party was to end at 5:00 PM and as party was getting close to ending I knew there wasn’t going to be any sex at this party either. None of the other people at the party seemed to have progressed beyond the talking stage and while Calvin was clearly very interested in Jo it was clear that while very friendly Jerri wasn’t interested in taking thing further with me. She kissed Jo and me and told us that she needs time to make a “connection” and that we shouldn’t be disappointed.

So we left our fourth sex party in three days and not only did we not have sex with anyone, or each other, we didn’t see anyone else having sex either. Where’s the evidence that Las Vegas is “sin city”? We sure didn’t see anything that would lead us to believe it was anything special in the sex scene.

Another quiet evening

Last night Jo went to the Muppet movie with her best friend. It was the only night which was going to work out for them because of busy schedules. I wasn’t really invited because the Muppets were a long time obsession for both of them and the Muppets just don’t mean that much to me. So Jo said I could go to the club without her.

I was looking forward to it and was pleased when I saw both Brenda and Kim on the RSVP list for the party. I went home after work and checked with Jo to make sure she was still okay with it before I went off in hopes to play with another woman. She said she was fine with it and I couldn’t detect any hints of reservation in her reassurances so I drove to the club for dinner, conversation, and hopes of some quality playtime with, if not Brenda or Kim then, someone else.

It didn’t happen. At least not the playtime. The dinner and conversation were good, almost great even. I talked with Brenda and Kim a bunch before dinner and had dinner with them and continued the conversation. Janice came up to me and gave me a kiss which was nice. I have played with her a couple times before but I think she had someone else in her sights this time and I barely saw her again.

Kim seemed far more interested in doing the Karaoke thing than playing with anyone. Long after nearly everyone else had gone off to the hot tubs and the play area she was still singing. Brenda didn’t care for the Karaoke and left after about 45 minutes. I left the table not too long after Brenda did. She told the people at the table she wanted to spend some time in the hot tub before going home to be with her husband when he got back from attending a concert.

I saw Brenda in the locker room and asked if she was interested in playing but she said she wasn’t. Since her husband was home she was just spending some time in the hot tub. I got undressed before Brenda and got to the hot tub just as a couple was leaving. There were four or five guys and one woman in the tub. The woman was with her husband and I had never seen them play with anyone other than each other. There wasn’t going to be anything happening for me here. Brenda arrived not too much later, which improved the visuals, but I wasn’t that interested in just visuals so I left after getting warmed up (the dinning area was kind of cold and I had gotten chilled).

At the entrance to the play area I chatted with Steve and Candice a bit. He had just given her a massage. He asked about my “wife” and Candice said that if she had a choice between going to the club or the Muppet movie she would totally go to the movie. She got up from the massage table, completely naked, and chatted a moment or two longer as she wrapped a towel around her. I considered asking her if she wanted to play with me but she isn’t a good match for me. I probably would have accepted had she asked me however. She went off to the hot tub, Steve went off to wash his hands, and I stayed at the entrance to the play area for a few more minutes before deciding it was time to leave. It was 10:00 PM and Jo would be home any time and I would rather be cuddled up in bed with her than standing around alone feeling sorry for myself at the entrance to the play area. There didn’t seem to be many people in there anyway. There were  few couples leaving, some in the locker room, but other than Brenda and Candice in the hot tub I didn’t see any single women around.

I arrived home about 10:40 and got into bed with Jo. We talked a for a while then, as usual after a visit to the club, we had sex then had sex again this morning.

You’re fired!

Last month we went to a house party and scoped things out without really getting very involved. Last night we attended a second party at the same place. Last time there were something like 50 or less people attending. This time there were 100 people. It was crowded to the point that you essentially had to push people aside to move from one place to another.

I don’t know if it was the additional people, that there were just some different people there, or that we knew more what to expect but things went a lot different for us this time. For one thing there were a lot of really nice looking people there. I don’t think that had changed that much but from some of our previous experiences where most of the people were unattractive we were much more aware of it.

We immediately saw people that interested us and most of them seemed interested in us or at least interested in Jo. I don’t think I could count how many people wanted to know how tall she was or commented on it. She is between 6’ and 6’ 1” which made her taller than all the women, even when they were wearing heels, and taller than most of the men. This was appealing to the guys and many of the women.

The first couple we talked to had been in the lifestyle for many years. I think they first started in the mid 1990’s. They had been on several lifestyle cruises as well as been to many different clubs. They lived just a few miles from our usual club but hadn’t attended there for several years. Jo and the guy were hitting it off really well but his wife was a short distance away talking to some other people and I wasn’t getting involved in conversations with any women. She finally drifted away from the other people and we chatted some. The biggest impression I got from it was that they had been married for 40 years. He looked old enough to have been married that long but I thought for sure his wife was at least 15 years too young, if not 20, to have been married that long. Jo was similarly surprised. I prefer taller women, she was probably about 5’2”, but with all things considered she was well within my acceptable range.

I’m not sure how or why it happened but we drifted off to talk with another couple, Calvin & Jerri, close by. This woman was 5’ 8” and in the tall heels she was wearing she was at a height that I could easily talk to her without looking down. She had a great body and was wearing a top that showed a lot of skin through the tight fitting and partially fishnet cloth. I was very interested in her. Jo and Calvin were hitting it off well but Jerri, while polite, didn’t light up like Calvin did with Jo. She put some effort into including a nearby couple, Cam and Rebecca, who seemed to be “wallflowers” included in our conversation. She did express a lot of interest in Jo and there was some kissing and all three women showing off their breasts as we stood in the kitchen talking. While Jo had the only ones that were all natural I could not tell, even from detailed touching that either of Jerri’s and Rebecca’s breasts had implants. Jerri’s implants were 20+ years old.

One of the more interesting things to come out of the conversation was that Calvin and Jerri are going to be in Las Vegas next weekend. The same time as Jo and are going to be there. They are meeting another swinger couple there for the weekend. They had met them on a lifestyle cruise recently and were going to get back together. We gave them our phone number and email address and told them to contact us if they wanted to do something with us.

Things were somewhat fluid for a while with various people coming and going. At one point when there was a pause in the conversation and it seemed that Jerri had warmed up to me I asked Calvin and Jerri if they wanted to go find play area with us. They looked at each other without any words being spoken and after a few awkward seconds Jo and I excused ourselves to let them have some time alone. As we walked away Jo told me, “You’re fired! It was too soon to ask that. Things were going just fine and then you messed it up.” The words were a little more harsh that what she really thought but there was some truth to it. I have a tendency to be socially awkward and had just made another demonstration of that. I didn’t see that it was too early to ask. The same question at what I thought was the same point in the “get to know each other phase” was generally successful at our usual club.

Ultimately we wandered back and continued pretty much where we left off without anything said about the awkward question. There was one change in things. Jerri was giving a lot of attention to Cam and Rebecca announced that she was going to stand next to me rather than Calvin so that everyone in our three couple group could have someone different. That put Jo back with Calvin again. There was a lot of kissing and touching between us and ultimately we wandered into the music/pole dance area. The other two couples sat on the couch and Rebecca and I leaned up on the frog chair and made out and slowly took off our clothes. We tried to make things work on the frog chair but the legs were too high for her and we went over to the sex swing beside the couch. That was far too short for me to have intercourse with her but it would well enough for oral sex. I started to eat on her and Jerri, right next to us on the couch, grinding her hips into Cam, said, “No. I’m first” and bent over to eat on her and use her fingers on her.  I gave Rebecca’s breasts some oral and manual attention and when Jerri returned her attention to Cam I once again performed some oral sex on Rebecca. After a while I noticed a sort of bean bag like mattress on the floor nearby and suggested we go over there.

It was incredibly loud in the room. Both from all the people and the music. It wasn’t the most comfortable location and I was having trouble until Jo and Calvin joined us and he put on a condom and entered Jo. I almost instantly became erect and the condom went on and things went much better between Rebecca and I.

Rebecca and I finished sooner than Jo and Calvin and we gave Jo’s breasts some attention and after a while Jerri came over and had her hands and face at the junction of her husband and Jo’s groin. Jo and Calvin continued for quite some time and the room cleared mostly cleared out except for the six of us and two other couples. We had a long drive home and Jo suggested we put on our clothes and maybe leave. I knew she was right so I found my clothes near the frog chair and after I got them on checked the time on my watch I found on the floor. It was almost midnight!

We went up to the kitchen, drank some water, ate a snack and were sort of working our way out when a group of people took an interest in Jo and her height. One woman started touching her and asked that she “unsheath” her long legs. Jo took off the panty hose and then two guys took off her bra. Jo describes it as “a little feeding frenzy”. The woman asked if she could kiss her and there was a long kiss. Jo was flattered by all the attention and still laughs about it but she ultimate held her panty hose in one hand, her bra in the other, and kissed her way out of the group. The woman who wanted Jo “unsheathed” had been talking to me and we kissed goodbye and I followed Jo out of the kitchen back into the music/pole-dance room to say goodbye to our playmates. Cam and Jerri were fucking again and Calvin and Rebecca were going at it now. Jo kissed them all, I kissed the two women and we left for the long drive home.

It was about 2:00 AM when we arrived. Jo was very sleepy and was tired too and I’m a night owl type. We got into bed and had sex with each other with some talk of our sex with our new playmates. When we woke up this morning we had sex again.

Quote of the week: Wilma

You can fuck him any way you like. Just don’t give him any fucking cookies.

Wilma
March 28, 2014

I heard this while Wilma was leading a discussion group on the lifestyle and was reporting how she and her husband stumbled across a “trigger”. Her husband, Rocky, had a playmate that she was fine with. They could have sex and everything was cool. Then the playmate made him a plate of cookies.

No one expected it or understood it but Wilma had a strong reaction to the gift of cookies. She didn’t actually say the words above to the playmate but this is how she ultimately expressed it to get her feelings into manageable words.

It took a while to get it figured out and everything is cool now but it was a great example of the landmines that can blow up in your face in the lifestyle. You can have no idea something was there and then you get a really strong reaction. It takes some sensitivity and a lot of communication to deal with these things.

One woman I took to the club had a similarly strange reaction. This was our second visit to the club. We just played with each other the first time and on our second visit we were with another couple in a play area. She was getting a lot of hot attention for the other guy and I moved slowly with the other woman while watching to make sure my friend was okay with the things that were happening. She seemed to be having a good time and when they started having intercourse I moved from soft stroking of the other woman’s breasts to a kiss. As the kisses grew more passionate my friend became upset to the point it was clear it was time to leave. We disengaged ourselves, put our clothes on and left. She was really steamed and wasn’t even talking to me. It was a several hour drive back to our homes and after maybe thirty minutes she finally told me, “It would have been okay if you were to have fucked her. But not kissed.”

I apologized and told her I didn’t know that was a problem. I told her I didn’t intend to upset her and that I really wanted to talk about it. But there was not reaction from her for another hour.  Finally she reached over and put her hand on my leg. I touched her hand, rubbed it, and said, “Thank you.” I was getting really sleepy anyway and I soon found a motel to check into. I got a room with two beds because I didn’t know what she wanted—she still hadn’t said a word. She got into bed with me and immediately initiated sex.  We had a great time in bed and cuddled up to sleep for the night. We still didn’t talk about it. We talked about other things but not that. A couple of days later in IM she told me she was out of line. She didn’t really understand but the kissing bothered her. She realized it was crazy but that was what she felt. She was enjoying the sex with the other guy until I kissed his wife and then things just fell apart for her.

“Trigger”, “landmine”, whatever. They can show up when you least expect them. There have been a few “firecrackers” with Jo, but all have been relatively minor and easy to deal with.