Home meeting for drinks

Last night Jo and I met another couple at their place for drinks. I had met them with my ex at our usual club years ago and then Jo and I chatted with them for a while at the house party we went to a couple months ago. Jo had some symptoms from a cold or allergy or else we would have gone to a club party. As it is she didn’t want to be kissing anyone and potentially getting them sick as well as when she lays down she gets a lot of sinus pressure.

So we went to Jeff and Mindy’s place and got to know them a lot better. We really got along well with them. They have been in the lifestyle for many years and are quite enthusiastic about it. Mindy, in particular, is extremely outgoing and fun to listen to.

We stayed for about two and half hours and then left shortly after some other lifestyle friends of theirs showed up for “a date” which almost for certain meant play time. We were invited to stay but it was time to get Jo back home for more rest.

As we were driving home we chatted about Jeff and Mindy. Jo really enjoyed their company but Jeff isn’t physically a good match for her. Mindy is okay, but not great for me. I’d definitely be interested in having sex with her but she isn’t someone that I going to lust after for weeks until I get my chance. Another thing that adds some hesitancy is that they like to play in separate rooms while Jo and I prefer the same room.

Time will tell how this relationship turns out.

I’ll probably see Mindy again in the not to distance future as she wanted some instruction in a field for which I am a certified instructor. No sex, she would be treated just like any of my other students.

Catch up

I haven’t posted anything about our club visits for two months now. That doesn’t mean we haven’t been going. It just means I didn’t find the time to write up the posts.

Here is a quick recap of some of the parties we have been to since the last post about a party we went to.

October 24th we attended a Halloween party at a hotel. This is the same club that said they would have their own facility ready for parties by August of this year. We ended up playing separately. I was with Kathleen again in her room. Jo had a threesome (she says it was “the best ever!”) with Mick and Michelle. Although we had a great time we really like being in the same room together and probably won’t do the separate room thing again.

November 12th, November 15th, November 19th, December 3rd, and December 6th we went to our usual club and nothing of particular interest happened. We generally had a nice time and talked to a few people but didn’t have sex with anyone else. On November 25th they announced they are closing the club for good with a party the last weekend in June of 2015. The club has been a part of my life for decades and I’m sorry to see it go. But things just haven’t been working out for us there and a lot of other people as well. The dynamics of a club are subtle combination of the people, the layout, the sounds, the rules, and probably a 100 other things. This club had it right, or close enough, for thirty years or so. It’s sad to see it fade away.

December 13th we attending the first public party of a relatively new club in their own facility. What is extremely promising about this club is that the owner is the son of the guy that owns the club we usually go to. He manage our usual club for several years and knows the business. He and his father had a falling out and a lot of people left our usual club supporting the son in the dispute. I didn’t want to get involved in the politics and the father’s club schedule was a better fit for my situation and I had never attended the son’s club at the hotels until after Jo and I started looking for alternatives.

We had been to two of their hotel parties but we were really looking forward to seeing their own facility. It is a shorter drive than any of the other party locations. We didn’t see many people of interest but we did see Jack and Danielle and two other couples that we knew.

Donna and her husband were there and we had a surprising conversation with them. Donna wanted to share a secret with us and asked Jo to share a similar secret with her. She said she they had been in the lifestyle for about two years now and had only had sex with two different men other than her husband in that time. She wanted to know how many different men Jo had been with since she had been in the lifestyle. Jo has been in the lifestyle just a little over two years so it was a fair comparison. Jo told her “about 20” and I said that I thought it was closer to 25.  Donna was quite intrigued and her husband was ready to “drag Jo away to the bedroom”. We need to talk to them more sometime. Because this is the same woman who suggested Jo and she take off their clothes, walk around the house and arranged a multiple cock sucking situation for herself and Jo. What is going on here?

We ended up playing with Dick and Alexis. They are a very nice looking couple and very enthusiastic. We had seen and talked to them at the house party on October 19th and at the hotel Halloween party October 24th and probably would have ended up playing with them there had things gone just a little different.

Okay. I’m all caught up. I’m hoping I can avoid getting so far behind again. I really need to post within a day or two after the party. Even if its not a full detail report just saying we went and the basics of what happened would be so much better than not posting anything at all.

Jo and I are 1 percenters

Via Justin J Lehmiller we have this chart on the frequency of intercourse in married couples:

SexFrequency

Jo and I are in our 50’s and sometimes have sex as often as four times in one day! Yet having sex four or more times in one week would put us in the top 1.1%.

We were shocked. Jo said, “What are these people doing?!” My response was, “I don’t know. But we know what they aren’t doing.”

I’m self medicating

I haven’t heard of this being covered by Obamacare or other insurance so I’m self medicating:

Sleeping with more than 20 women protects men against prostate cancer, a study has suggested.

Men who had slept with more than 20 women lowered their risk of developing cancer by almost one third, and were 19 per cent less likely to develop the most aggressive form.

In contrast, men who slept with 20 men doubled their risk of developing prostate cancer compared with men who have never had sex with another man.

Researchers at the University of Montreal believe that intercourse protects men, and men who are more promiscuous have more sex than those in monogamous relationships.

The evidence just keeps increasing that there are significant health benefits to having a lot of sex.

Implications for swingers?

There is no mention of study results for humans but this could have lots of implications for people in the lifestyle.

Can Previous Mating Partners Influence The Traits Of Future Offspring?:

Perhaps not surprisingly, DNA paternity analyses confirmed that the most recent male partner had indeed sired the offspring in the vast majority of cases. However, the scientists also found that the size of the offspring was strongly related to the size of the female’s first mating partner. At the same time, offspring size was unrelated to the size of the most recent partner, even in cases where there was definitive evidence that the most recent partner was the father. That’s right—the young flies tended to look more like mom’s first mate than they did their dads.

Smaller house party

Jo and I have attended several large house parties in the last year. These probably have about 30 to 50 people. It’s not what I really think of as a house party. They are more like a party house that doesn’t want to get the license and zoning for a business.

Last night we went to what I think of as a true house party. There were about 15 people there. We were a little awkward with things at first. We only knew the host and hostess before we arrived. The dynamics are different at different locations too. There was a significant shortage of men that might be of interest to Jo as well. There was one couple that my ex and I had dinner with at the usual club once. I recognized them and they were thrilled to be recognized but they didn’t remember me. The woman was very interested in me and kissed me several times. But I could tell Jo wasn’t feeling the attraction and so I didn’t pursue that opportunity as vigorously as I could have.

As we were talking to people and trying to figure things out the kitchen area rapidly emptied until we were almost the only ones left. What was happening?

There were several men interested in Jo and asked her to play but she turned them all down. We got some private time and talked about things some. There was one guy, Trevor, she was sort of interested in. His wife, Kathleen, was a good match for me too. But they had disappeared someplace. We wandered off, found an empty bed, and played with each other for a while but I could tell Jo wasn’t really getting turned on for some reason. I stopped, we talked for a while, then went looking for people again.

We found a bunch of people in the garage. That was another social area where smoking was permitted. There wasn’t much smoking going on so we didn’t find the smoke an issue like we normally would in a smoke filled room.

Jo and I sat in the garage sitting around talking with a bunch of other people for maybe 15 minutes. She then told me she was going to get a drink but I should stay for a while. “Don’t just follow me out.” I’m not sure if there was some discussion that I didn’t know about but a couple minutes later Kathleen came in and sat down next to me and started talking. We had a nice conversation then Jo came back and started chatting. Then Trevor came in and sat down and chatted with us. It wasn’t long before Kathleen started asking if Jo and I played with others or just each other, and what our rules were. Within a minute or two she asked if we would like to play with them. Jo and I looked at each other, said a couple of words and off we went.

Jo was quite pleased with Trevor as a playmate. Kathleen was very nice for me too. After Kathleen and I were finished we talked for  while then wandered off to the kitchen while Jo and Trevor were still busy. We got snacks and something to eat then I told her I was going back to watch Jo and Trevor. I watched them have sex for a while and after they finished I “had my way” with Jo.

It was late, after midnight, so we drove home, went to bed, and had sex again. Then again this morning.

After we had time to think about what we experienced we realized what the dynamic was that made things different for us. At this party, a very select group of people, if you talked to someone for more than a minute or two it meant you were interested in having sex with them. The people at this party “didn’t waste time”. As soon as the doors were closed at 8:30 people started filling up the beds. Things happened very fast. We were a little bit left out at first because we were moving at a much slower pace than the rest of these very experienced swingers.

Mattress types and sex suitability

Via Glen Reynolds we have this report on various types of mattresses and their suitability for sex:

  Air Memory foam Water Latex Innerspring
Active sex friendly c+ d+ c b- b-
Bouncy c f d- d+ b
Allows discretion d+ A- b- B+ c+
Durable d+ b b- b C
many positions c+ c c- b- b
Comfortable b- A- c+ b+ c
Allows faster climax c b c+ C+ c
Whole bed suitable c- C+ B- b C+

There is lots of additional information and detail in the complete article. What they didn’t report on is the suitability for group sex. While I like a waterbed with no baffles for one couple sex with two couples my experience is that everyone pretty much just gives up on the sex and starts laughing. The waves from the movement from one couple totally disrupts the motion of the other couple.

Meet, greet, and complete

Last night Jo and I went to a “meet and greet” at a casino/bar/dance place. There were probably something 100++ people there. We met a few new people but didn’t talk to them all that much. We gravitated to people we already knew and spent most of our time talking to them.

We spent quite a bit of time talking to Cam and Rebecca (and Jo did a fair amount of kissing with Cam) but it was Alfred and Debbie that invited us back to their place only a couple miles away. Debbie rode with me and Jo rode with Alfred so we wouldn’t get lost.

We were given a quick tour of their home which ended up with Debbie and I in one bedroom and Jo and Alfred in another. Jo and I would have liked to have been in the same room but it turned out fine.

Debbie and I could hear Jo really enjoying herself and I used my hands, fingers, and mouth to give Debbie her share of orgasms as well. Jo and Alfred came in and got on the bed with us after a while. I climbed on top of Jo and had sex with her for a while and then pulled out, put on a condom, and then finished up with Debbie.

It was really late by then and after talking and cuddling for only for a short while Jo and I put on our clothes and left.

Jo slept a lot of the way home but she reported she had a really good time and would “definitely do that again”.

It was so late when we got home that we didn’t have sex with each other again. We just went to sleep but had sex the this morning and again later.

Quote of the week: Debbie

Alfred and I are going to have a polyamorous relationship with your vagina.

Debbie
August 23, 2014

This was said to Jo when we bumped into Alfred and Debbie at a meet and great. Debbie and Alfred are quite attracted to Jo.  Debbie also told Jo that when Alfred is rejected by other women she tells him (in regards to having had sex with Jo):

You’ve been with a super model , so what do you care?

This praise, and rightly so, did wonders for Jo’s ego.